all right that all right that is governor mitt romney in englewood, colorado having an incredible rally and joining me is ohio senator rob portman. senator, i don't know of anybody other than ann romney who spent time on the campaign trail other than you. he was in the top of his game tonight. >> it was a uplift vision for the future and the way to close in colorado, and ohio. >> i have noticed he's not attacked the president or what is wrong with barack obama. he brings up the contrast. like the close with the boy scouts. you are with him almost every day. have the moods that you have seen in the crowds change in the last couple of weeks? >> they have partly because of

the debates. our side got more energize i have been around to many rallies and never seen crowds or enthusiasm on our side. last night we had a rollie outside of cincinnati. 30, kipeople showed up and they were boisterous as the crowd in colorado. they are excited about a fresh sta and what he was talking about. >> i was amazed at his energy level. we are more tired than he seems to be and he's out there campaigning every day. >> he has a passion for it and he has the adrenalin in the last two or half day,. he believes america is on the wrong track and he can turn it around. he has a strong following in ohio. >> ohio is critical. you know the state as well as anybody. and you have been a

congressman and united states senator and this is your home state, how do you see this coming down tuesday? >> ohio is a purple state, and neither red or blue . bum barack won it by five pointsnd george bush twice. and this year we are close to a dead heat. we have the energy and enthusiasm that we see on the campaign trail. ultimately it is the passion and heart of the volunteers. i spent time where i made calls. i think we are going to win this. and it is going to be close and there will be victory in ohio and so goes ohio and so goes the country. >> when you talk about it is tight, and tipping one way or the other. is it the issue or emotion of the voterss and intensity that you think will put ohio in the romney column. >> it is a top issue.

jobs and the economy . the concern in ohio, although we are doing better than the national average thanks to mare yejohn cusack. we are still on the wrong track and we have more potential we can achieve with leadership from washington. i was with voters who are not republicans or democrats and first time going to a victory center. and they say we can't afford another four years like the last four. they are looking for opportunity for themselves and the kids. that's what i see out there. mitt romney offered a positive plan for the future and the president offered more of the same. these voters are in ohio and undecide independent voters, they see mitt romney offing a fresh approach with getting ohio back on track. and barack obama offers what got us in this mess in the last four years.

>> senator, so much controverse nebenghazi. it changes every day. you and your colleagues are not getting many answers. it hasn't camentured the attention. news media as far as the election is concerned, are you troubled that we don't know what happened in benghazi and we are not getting clear and concise and consistent answers from the state department and white house and other elements of the administration. >> very troubled and a shocking operational break down not to have the security in place after we found explicit requests for more security . during the 7-hour firefighter that terrible night in benghazi, not to come to the aid of fellow americans including the ambassador, first one to be assassinated since 1979. i senate a later to secretary

panetta and i sent another one with john mccain more recently . the american people have a right to know. we'll see what happens. i think in the last couple of days, there is more about among the media in looking at the issue it is truly a shocking break down and also after the fact misleading the american people about what happened. i think you will see more interest in this and i hope we can get to the bottom quickly. >> is there a reason governor romney has not made that a bigger issue. >> he's talked about it some and allowed surrogates like you and me to talk about it more. senator mccain and lindsay graham who did a terrific job raising the issue and being explicit of what thes are we are looking for. i think the american people know there is something amiss and very wrong when you have

americans in harm's way and folks not responding coming to their aid despite the pleas. i think what happened in benghazi, unfortunately is the spread of islamic extremism in horn much africa and middle east running contrary to what the president is saying. he said al-qaida is on the run and ropes. and that we have taken care of the problem, unfortunately that is not true. the reality is we face a lot of dangers in the world and that's why we need a military second to none and one of the issues governor romney talks about. if lected he will not cut the military. president obama wants to cut the military half trillion and sequestation another half million. that is a big distinction in the race. >> because you have spent more time with him on the campaign

trail other than ann. was there a moment that you saw the switch go on and mitt romney become the candidate we are seeing tonight and all cylinders are firing? >> he loved the debates because it was an opportunity for him to go around the attack ads and tell the american people who he is and what he stands for. that was the moment and he did well. it more confidence on his part because he had the opportunity, mostly going around the media and what people were hearing what he was. here in ohio, we were out spent all summer and fall three-one on the campaign ads and the obama cam 59ib ads are negative. and the image of governor mitt romney was not accurate. he was able to get around the misperceptions and do it democraticly and that made a difference. >> senator, it is a delight to

have you here . for you to be here tonight. >> i know the fans appreciate what you do with this show and what you are doing for so many cand dates. >> if i have fans, may their tribe increase. >> less than two months after four americans were killed. president obama is telling supporters that al-qaida was decimated. my reaction to the president's claims and notable quotables when we return. new pink lemonade 5-hour energy?

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with three days left campaign is trying to get to as many people as possible. you can expect them to repeat

the talking points. but one of the president's favorite lines kicks off the favorite of the week. war in stab stan afghanistan winding down. al-qaida has been dismated. al-qaida is decimated. >> we have been hearing that a lot. the president and vice-president joe biden told us that osama bin laden is alive and gm is alive. maybe they real theme is alive. al-qaida slive. and a u.s. ambassador is dead. this narrative that al-qaida has been despated is obviously a little premature for the president to announce. it is evident that al-qaida was attack the in benghazi, lib yampt we know it was not just one person . we salute the president for calling the order to get rid of osama bin laden. and we give him credit for

that. but the idea that somehow we no longer have an issue with islamic jihadism is naive . they will be alive as long as someone can carry the torch and there are many to do it. earlier this week the president took time out to address how the government is guessing to address the devination of hurricane sandy. >> we'll not tolerate red tape or bureaucracy. we go through tough times and we bounce back. the reason we bounce back is because we look out for one another and don't leave anybody behind. >> that's the way it is supposed to be. you might have hard time convincing folks in staten island and folks on it is new jersey shore no one is left behind. some of them haven't seen food, water or electricity or gasoline or fuel for the home

in freezing conditions since the initial hit of hurricane sandy. they are not the only ones that feel left behind. some of those folks in the consulate in benghazi on the night of the september 11th felt left behind for nine hours as a heavy assault happened. carefully orchesterated and planned . felt left behind 15 days afterwards when the only explanation that the administration had that someone offended because they watched something on youtube. we should never leave an american behind whether they are on our shores struggling from the aftermath of a hurricane or trying to get out from under the guns was terrorist determined to kill every last one of us. >> finally this is how the president trying to get people motivated to vote. >> the republican congress and a senate candidate by the name

of mitt romney. no, no, no. don't boo, vote. vote. vote is the best revenge. i understand he may have used it as a rhetorical. this is not about revenge. it is what is wrong with american politicings. when can it not be every american winnig because we are a country that recognizes we may have sharp, sharp differences. but we are americans and each of us have to respect the other and give a little and take a little and learn to live as one nation under god, not a nation looking to get revenge at the other side. we have a remarkable story when we come back. we'll continue our show with a closing and powerful story of a couple who know mitt romney in a way that you might not have heard before.

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ever one of the criticisms that has been leveled at governor mitt romney is that he is just is ruthless cold businessman. he has a passion for people. the story got exploded duringng the republican national convention.f >> the through maine sure of as man is revealed in his actionsg during times of trouble. the quiet hospital room of a dying boy with no cameras and no reporters.fr

>> mike: joining me from burlington, vermont, ted and patricia oprakowski. u story was powerful. t i'm not sure there was a dry eye in the house. that is a pretty big house and no dry eyes. how did you first meet governor romney? what was the reason for your encounter with him? >> well, the governor was church oriented. we met him at church the firstn time, him and his wife. and then from there we interacted a little and that was -- i was involved with the republican party in the citye that i lived in and i asked hih to speak. that was years ago when his father was still a person of note. and then he spoke. spoke and he about -- the is subject he spoke was his father ho who hed

a high regard for and -- >> and patricia -- go ahead, ted. patricia, i wanted to ask about your son. he was 14, diagnosed with hodgkins disease. terminally ill. >> nonhodgkins. >> mike: nonhodgkins. >> during that time that is when mitt romney ministered to your family in a personal way. tell us about that. >> well, he used to come and visit us at our home and david ended up in and out of the hospital a lot because of treatments and infections and we discovered that mit would go to the hospital and visit david. we didn't really know that for awhile. but he did. and i think he must have done that early in the morning because we never saw him. ted bumped into him one time but i never saw him there and i was with david at the hospital

most of the time. >> mike: and there was a remarkable story about david who knew that mitt romney was a harvard law graduate and asked him about making a will which is stuning that a 14-year-old boy would even think of such a thing. what did mitt romney do when david asked him to help him? >> well, that is -- his mother knows more about that. but really what happened is knowing mitt that -- was a -- went to law school and he was a lawyer even though not practicing, david asked him because david at that time knew he was dying. he knew that a few weeks before and he was preparing as a 14-year-old boy in his way which is makes him a bigger man than many other people i know. >> mike: we have lost them. and, you know, patricia and

ted, i want to say thank you. you know, your story, how mitt romney came and helped them put together a will so that he could give away some of his possessions to his friends. it does show a different side of him than we have ever heard before and patricia and ted, thank you for coming. i know it has been a long evening for you. we appreciate your being here tonight from vermont. >> well, it is our pleasure, governor. >> thank you so very much. >> mike: i want to thank all of you for joining us here tonight on this special edition of huckabee. and with the romney speech we have extended a little bit. but more importantly, we want to close tonight by asking you to consider not only praying for those folks along our northeastern shore are who have been devastated by hurricane sandy, but do something more than just think about them or pray for them. make a contribution to a charity that will reach out and help them and there are a number of people who have lost everything. everything. and they just need something

from each of us. certainly we can give them our prayers but something tangible in the way of a contribution is most appropriate. that is what americans do. it is who we are. now, that we are approaching an election and we think the most important thing in the world is the next president, for some people the most important thing in their world is the next meal or being able to get new the next night without heat or a way to get to work. for all of those folks, we say may god be with you and thanks for joining us tonight. from columbus, ohio, this is mike huckabee. until next week, good night and captioned by closed captioning services, inc.

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the first order of government is the protection of its citizens. the first order of the military is to march to the sound of the gun and leave no one behind. this week our commander in chief reaffirmed his pledge to

support and protect all americans. >> we are here for you. and we will not forget. we will follow up to make sure that you get all of the help that you need. >> judge jeanine: unless, of course, you are in benghazi. hello and welcome to "justice." i'm judge jeanine pirro. this week cables continue to prove that the obama administration lied, denied, and people died. those cables reveal more of what the white house knew and when they knew it. it wasn't 48 hours after the attack when the white house knew that ansar al-sharia attacked the consulate but less than four hours that they knew who was responsible and yet mr. president you continued to say "the view" and letterman that you were investigating and you talked about the video and you continued to apologize to the arab world. not only do we know that

ambassador stevens was afraid for his safety and he wasn't sure that he would even live through 9/11, but he sent a cable at 6:43 a.m. on september 11th that morning saying that libyans who were part of the police mission were photographing the mission inside. and hillary even before that cables notified you on august 16 that security was trending negatively and that there was a concern that the libyan militia, charged with protecting the consulate, had been compromised. even infiltrated by extremists and that approximately 10 islamist militias and al-qaeda training camps were known to operate around benghazi. and yet you, hillary, continued to talk about a video that no one besides you ever heard of.

>> the united states government had absolutely nothing to do with this video. we absolutely reject its content and message. >> judge jeanine: and now we know that you yo not only had notice, warnings and individual pleas for help from the ambassador, which you refused, but that you watched the savegeing of four american -- savegeing of four americans in real time. those in the white house situation room watched it as it happened. but i guess pictures of the white house situation room are only released when they benefit you. but oh, i foregot, what is to watch? al-qaeda is on its heels. it has been destroyed. in fact, the president told us that this very week. >> al-qaeda has been decimated.

osama bin laden is dead. >> now, i know the old geiser who watched porno films in that hut is dead but i'm not so sure al-qaeda is. let's not politicize this. >> this is something that the american people can take to the bank is that my administration plays this stuff straight. we don't play politics when it comes to american national security. >> judge jeanine: take it to the bank? mr. president, your check just bounced. here is one person determined to find the truth about benghazi. senator john mccain joins me now on the phone. good evening, senator. >> good evening, judge. i'm sorry that i'm not there to be looked at. we are in virginia and we are campaigning for mitt romney and so i'm glad to talk to you on the phone. by the way, i think your

depiction of events as they have transpired everything i know is totally accurate and i want to mention to you that in traveling around virginia today i was in ohio yesterday, i was in montana before that, north dakota, i can tell you our veterans and our active duty military are angry. they have lost any trust in this commander in chief that they might have once had and i'm telling you i have never seen them so angry as they are and with good reason. >> judge jeanine: and, of course, senator, none of us can blame them. but senator, you are asking for a new committee to be created an immediate creation of a temporary select committee possibly encompassing members of both the senate and the house to conduct an investigation into the death of these four americans. we know darrell issa has his government reform and oversight committee looking at it and we have other committees.

thing of the greatest interest is that hillary clinton is investigating her own state department. are you requesting this select committee not trusting the findings of the state department? >> you can't trust their findings. you can't trust the timeline that was just put out by the cia. fox already reported in the last few hours that there are people on the ground in libya that will directly refute their sequence of events. it is a coverup, judge. let's call it what it is, it is a coverup. and one of our veterans by the way pointed out to me that in watergate nobody died. and the fact is that we -- in order for the american people to get the full story they would have to be a bipartisan select committee like watergate and like severaller whos that we have had like iran contra and the facts need to be known and the facts can only come out that way.

and any conclusions that the state department or any other government organization might have have to be discounted completely. and finally, you cannot have a situation like this continue to fester, it now turned into a centipede. another shoe just dropped a couple of hours ago and believe me, there are more. >> judge jeanine: senator, a lot of people are saying that the august 16 cable that serves as basically a smoking gun that al-qaeda had training camps and they were worried about them in benghazi. do you think it was a smoking gun? >> i think it is one of the smoking guns. i think that one of the other smoking guns is, of course, the attacks on the consulate that took place in april and june. the fact that the british ambassador -- there was an assassination attempt and the fact that they closed their consulate.

the red cross left. there were many repeated warnings. you just talked about ambassador chris stevens. he sent a mul multitude of cabs back demanding that there be a better security or warning of the deterioration. you know, foreign policy magazine people went in to the consulate there and found some other messages. i mean isn't that stunning that months later that they should be coming in? where was the fbi? but i think the major point is that the president of the united states wanted to say that osama bin laden is gone and al-qaeda is on the run. al-qaeda is not on the run. they are all over iraq. they are pouring in to syria. they have taken over northern mali. i'm telling you it is because the weak and feckless leadership by this president that al-qaeda is not only not on the run or decimated they are far, far stronger than they were four years ago.

>> judge jeanine: and senator, i think events of of the past month or so have made that clear. senator, you been in politics for many years around all of us believe you our government. we want to believe our government leaders. have you lost faith, have you lost faith like so many people have in the word of the white house and what clearly are lies? they knew they were lies at the time? how does it make you feel? >> makes me feel terrible. makes me even feel worse that i lost. but when the president of the united states says things that are patently false, when goes to the united nations even and says that it was still a spontaneous demonstration caused by a hateful video, when -- i was on "face the nation" the sunday that susan rice was out there and immediately after susan rice gave that message, the hateful video they had the president of

the libyan national assembly come on right after that and said no, this is an al-qaeda operation. an al-qaeda operation. he said it unequivocally. let for days and weeks afterwards they kept up this facade. i guess they think they are running out the clock. just yesterday the state department had a news conference and their spokesperson refused to answer a single question about benghazi. somehow that? >> judge jeanine: and you know what, senator, i think when you can say you are investigating and it is all about beat the clock. >> absolutely. >> judge jeanine: the election is three days away and the biggest concern i think of some especially the military is will we ever get to the bottom of this. will we ever know or get the administration to admit what they knew. >> the only way we are going to know is a bipartisan committee. a select committee such as we had with iran contra and water

gate and others that has credibility with the american people. by the way, i wonder when the mainstream moodia is going to -- media is going start carrying this story? >> judge jeanine: certainly a disappointment to all of us. senator, we very much appreciate your time and we will take a rain check on your being here this evening. thank you so much, senator john mccain. >> and could i just finally say thank you you for your staying on this store arery, judge. i appreciate it. >> judge jeanine: my pleasure. >> and so do the families of the people who died. thank you. >> judge jeanine: thank you, senator. coming up, did the obama administration sit on its hands and watch as four americans were killed when help was just minutes away? ♪

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>> retired u.s. army colonel and fox military analyst, and former cia operative mike baker in new york city. thanks for being with us this evening. the first thing i want to talk about, now that we know there was this cabling on august august 16th, basically saying al qaeda is in the region, we're squared scared, we need more security. we now no the white house situation room was watching real time as this unfolded. i want to look at who was in the white house situation, who would

have been able to see what was going on in benghazi. >> you have department of state security office on the phone, to the department of state operations there. that goes directly to the situation room. he had a drone up. ran out of gas. another drone up. you had cia operations guys in benghazi talking, and then guys -- >> so we have audio, visual, and calls at that point in real-time and satellite and the drones, so who is watching. >> this is unfolding before their eyes and as the colonel said, as soon as this balloon goes up, you've got langly, for the cia, state department, the white house situation room. they're all screaming for information. and so you have the chief of base in benghazi, to the degree he can, the chief of station in tripoli. they're all sending information back. they positioned a drone overhead to provide -- the clarity is quite good -- to provide

information on their terminal so they can watch. >> so anyone who had access to that computer could see this real-time. >> the third embassy in 24 hours going up in smoke. a lot of trouble in the middle east. everybody is watching and listening. >> let's talk about, the question should be, who didn't know? what was going on? everybody knew. let's talk about the military assets in the area that could have gotten to benghazi. >> there's an important point to lead this off with. as we talk about this. which is that in very short order the white house knew that we were not getting a counterassault support from the libyans themselves. so we knew, as this thing was beginning to unfold, the libyans, our friends, were doing nothing to provide support. >> because we knew at 6:43 in the morning that -- and from the cable a month before, that it was being infiltrated. so, this libyan militia, they

said they called for him, they're almost the enemy. >> we have been at war for 11 years. what the united states military and intelligence community know how to do is react to a fire fight in another country. we had jets, and ability on the ground from the cia to call them in, and to pinpoint -- >> all right. what's an f-16. >> a very fast moving jet. >> what's on it? >> guns, bombs, very -- and they can go very specific targeted if they have somebody pointing at it. the point is it's very fast and very available. within 25 minutes. >> you have the resources. you have seen on the graphic in the region. the important thing is we've got -- this attack is unfolding, this agency, the cia has personnel on the ground, global response guys, they are not there to provide long-term defensive capability. they there are to hold off the

hostiles until the cavalry shows up, and the covenant is that the cavalry will show up. >> it didn't. the cia guys did a phenomenal job. >> they're heroes. >> they reacted with side arms against 125 guys, and actually rescued some people. the problem is the military is supposed to back them up. >> let's talk about the f-16. with the bomber capability we know there were some in northern italy and we say it would take 25 minutes, from the base or -- >> if they move the aircraft, which they did, down to siganala, they're 25 minutes from the target. >> the first attack its 9:40. they know about it immediately. yes in. >> yes. >> 25 minutes later, the fight goes on how late? >> the fight goes on for -- >> for nine hours. but there's two waves. the first wave is when you lose stevens, and the other -- and smith. the second wave, seven hours

later -- >> doesn't matter. we know that once the attack starts, we know that we've got a very short period of time for the -- on the ground 0, cia people to have some type of counterassault effort to try to hold off until the military shows, and we know again the libyans aren't providing support. so at that point immediately you have to try. >> but we had the f-16s and could have gotten 0 to benghazi long before the second wave, if not the first wave. >> yeah. all they needed was the order to go, and they weren't given it. >> they kept asking for it. let's go to an ac-130. what its that? >> ac-130 is a c-130 with a 105-millimeter canyon, a good gn x and we had agencies on the group that could have called it. i. >> that's is what woods kept calling for.

>> yes, we had two of our guys the ron rooftop. identified hostile positions, they were anticipating, hoping -- it's not just the two guys on the rooftop we're talk about trying to save. it's the 30 plus from the consulate that our guys rescued, all those people that apparently the white house said, i don't know, maybe you'll be taken hostage or you'll die in the attack but we're not going to try. >> moving people under fire to their face and need this military cover, which is available. it was moved to help them and didn't get the order to go. >> let's give some of the benefit of the doubt. i don't like giving liars the benefit of the doubt. let's assume they were worried about collateral damage. they could have lowered the f-16s to make a lot of noise and disburse the crowd? >> they could a have done a flyover, and again, this is the part that is so frustrating and disingenuous, and honestly i don't know how anybody who has been in the military or intel community, how they can

understand or process what the white house is saying. we didn't have enough information. >> we had visual and audio information. again, we've been fighting for 11 years in iraq and afghan. we know how to do this. >> let's pull up the next screen we heard about delta force being moved from central europe to ciganela. >> special force operations, they're the best we have in the army. again, people would recognize it because of the seal team 6. same type of organization, counterterrorism. they were training in europe in -- and they got the call with two and a half hours to get to benghazi, and the special forces group, a marine forward area support team. these are trained marines to do exactly what they were not allowed to do. >> they could have made it but no one gave them permission to go.

>> piniella said, who i have a great deal of respect for, very good at the agency, about he has come out and is carrying water for the administration and is saying that we didn't have enough information, we can't deploy the troops into harm's way. that's what they train for. that what they expect to be dropped into harm's way. >> they don't need to pack a bag for 24 hours later. they just hit. >> they're ready to go. >> if you wait for all the information, bad things happen. >> of course, of course, and what senator mccain just said, the military is worried now. while the cavalry come? thank you so much for being with us explain this. we're going to do more of this in the future. coming up, the president says, al qaeda is decimated and on its heels. is he even telling the truth and later, will we ever see justice for the four americans killed in benghazi?

president obama is repeatedly claimed that al qaeda is on the run. on its heels, and keeps bringing up that osama bin laden's death has occurred. but is he telling the truth? is al qaeda really desdecimated? with me is former reagan defense official and frank gaffney, a pleasure to have you with us this evening. >> good evening. good to be with you. >> let's talk about al qaeda, is it decimateed, on the run, on its heels? >> i believe the president is knowingly misleading the american people, putting it gently. lying to them about this -- there's every reason to believe

that al qaeda is stronger today than it was when he took office. it certainly is operating with impunity in more places, and is more aggressive as a result, i believe, of his policies. so far from them being on the path to defeat or decimated, as he likes to say, apart from some people in the leadership who clearly have been taken out, the organization and particularly the franchises of the organization, the wanna-bes, those affiliated with it that are now rung, in some cases effectively, countries. for example, the size of france. >> frank, let me ask you this. where are they getting their arms from? >> it's some of it, i believe, they're getting from places that are -- happy to supply them. i think the saudis, the turks are providing some of the arms.

some of the arms i think almost certainly have emanated from the caches of moammar gadhafi, and some reason to believe those were made available through a pipeline from our own efforts to gather up those weapons in libarch sent on to turkey, by shipment, as fox news reported, and sent across the border to syria. unfortunately the people getting the weapons in syria are the muslim brotherhood. >> i'm coming up against a hard break. frank, muslim brotherhood, are we in a better position with them? charge? who are they? very quickly, frank. >> the muslim brotherhood is an organization that is it -- islamist to its core. seeks our destruction. they're not our friends.

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